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I have had over 1,000 calls since 2017-2019 with investors just like you. And now that I am not working… I admit that’s a few calls a day while I was taking my extended breaks at work.
All kinds of investors some not listening to my directions of checking out the first 20 podcasts and those who are getting into larger deals and unloading their turnkey rentals too.
If we have not spoke (I don’t want to talk to wholesellers or flippers because flippers don’t understand taxes and wholesellers evade taxes) you need to schedule a call with me now.
Some words of wisdom.
Most people starting out get really excited and burn out in 3-6 months. There is usually something that motivates people to get out of the house, to google “passive real estate investing”, or schedule a call with a dude name Lane. Let’s call it what it is… “pain”!
Pain from something that happen at work. Getting fired, passed up for promotion, or getting tired of meetings.
Or just the realization that you will not be financially free if you keep doing the same old stuff (that just makes Wall Street rich).
Humans are amazing, we heal. And the Pain eventually goes away (in 3-6 months) and you are back to the same old same old. I’ll say it… like a bad relationship you just stick it out. 😛
If I had a super power I would force people into a decent deal in the first few months before this healing mechanism ever takes place! Success breeds success and if you see the returns come in yourself you will be hooked. If you have an addictive personality? Well this one might be good for you.
I’m sorry if you overwhelmed by deal past deals, future ones, as well as get access to our share drive by signing up for our Hui Deal Pipeline Club in the first 60 days. I just have to strike while the iron is hot and I may know what is best for you here.
If you don’t like it then keep doing what you are doing. As an engineer good with spreadsheets I know without a doubt where you will end up net worth wise in 30 years if you continue to invest in retail garbage investments.
In closure, use all the free content on SimplePassiveCashflow.com to get as far as you can. Just know that you are missing a lot of the nuances, insider info, and relationships with other professionals across the USA in the Group Coaching Mastermind.

For passive investors the property manager is the most important person on your team. That said it is very underpaid and extremely difficult to find one and keep them. From a property manager’s standpoint, its not a really good business to be in because you get to see the worse side of owners and tenants, there are low margins, and turnover is high.
Dummy waring: don’t be a jerk when asking these questions. Let it guide a conversation instead of playing stump the chump. You need a good property manager more than a good property manager needs you… make sense?!?
Remember: There must be a personal level of connection. Can they carry on an intelligent conversation than give you the text book answer?
Here is a sample of a contract from a turnkey provider that a Mastermind member redlined.
Not giving any legal advice but the sheer amount of revisions to the turnkey providers contract may make them balk at having you as a buyer especially in a strong sellers market.
Its like that time you went out with a date with someone and did not really like them (redline the heck out of their contract) and you want to politely never want to see that person again… well same thing.
PS – Check out the tip on the 2% seller paid closing costs language
Word document provided in the Mastermind share drive.


Its reality (and a little morbid) that your parents are aging you be one of the main caregivers. If you reading this they you understand the saying “sandwich generation” squished between taking care of kids, a demanding career, and aging parents.
I have had calls with investors who have had their parents give a greatly appreciated property before death (losing all the step up basis tax advantages) or give an asset to only to have a person get injured at the property and now everyone in the family is on the hook for the lawsuit.
How can we plan for this proactively and strategically without falling victim to traditional methods (taxes and a commission based financial planners).
Its definitely and emotional time with a money on the line… like wedding planning… yikes!
Although you came from the same DNA strain and upbringing you will be surprised on what is behind the financial status of our parents. Going in with a non judgmental mindset enables you get the truth and arrange a mutual plan.
Start by gathering the following:
We have all coaching clients download and complete this personal financial sheet which help facilitate conversations.
It’s not as simple as die with less than $22 million in assets. We can help with our Family Office consultation to navigate the complex situations of designing a game plan.
See where the money is coming and going. Inventory current bills and whether or not those are being paid on time.
Run credit reports with Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion. Be kind when understanding that your parents will have the traditional mindset to debt than you.
Inventory social security, retirement accounts, real estate, and cash.
Inventory medical history and any current medications they’ve been prescribed. Automate appointments and get involved with the relationship with their health provider.
You may consider the power of attorney (POA) should they become incapacitated. Even if they are in good health you should have a trust setup. Let us know and we can refer you to someone we trust. A will is not acceptable because it will go into probate.
A will is not acceptable. Get a trust setup to avoid probate and giving up 2-10% of the estate value to lawyers. Smart lawyers who create wills for you know its guaranteed work for them ($$$) in the future.
Familiarize yourself with long-term care which is designed to help pay for chronic diseases and disabilities. The money can be used for medical to non-medical activities like bathing, eating, and dressing, assisted living options as we will discuss below, as well as skilled care by nurses or other professionals.
Not to scare you or feed into a insurance broker’s ploy but:
The department of health and human services says that those who are age 65 today has a ~70% chance of needing some type of long-term care services. And those aged 55-60, only 5% of them have long-term care coverage. The cost of coverage can be $2000-3000 per year.
Based on Social Security Administration info, the average lifespan of a man who has reached 65 is around 84 and for a woman who’s reached 65 is almost 87.
We all know about investing in assisting living deals but now we are the customers.
Learn your parents’ wishes regarding the type of care facility they would prefer based on their (and your) financial situation.
Would they want to live with others while they still can get around or would they rather live in their current home until they break their hip and can barely use the restroom themselves?
Check their insurance coverage and what the government will and won’t pay for relative to Medicare benefits. Here is where it would require a tax/legal professional (not your typical tax guy) to advise you how to equity strip your parents to quality for the most coverage while gifting off as much assets as you can.
Clients who engage in our family office and coaching clients may reach out for assistance with these issues and get setup with our best advisors.
You parents might be find going to an assisted living facility or “old people home,” however they may not have the funds to do that or you may prefer to have them nearby…
… but not too close.
One solution maybe constructing an Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) on your current property. One advantage to this is that you can have free childcare in the backyard and forge a stronger relationship between your kids and their grandparents 😁
When you put in an offer on something simple as a turnkey rental… lets face it. Its mostly about price. But there are some terms that I usually put in there such as a credit back for the maximum seller paid closing costs (~2%) in order to minimize the money out of pocket.
Other common things to watch out for especially if you are working directly with a turnkey provider as a non MLS transaction are terms of how your earnest money goes non-refundable (goes hard) and how long you have for an inspection period. And other basic contingencies such as financing contingency or sale pending completed and inspected scope of work and tenanted property.
As much as I don’t like brokers, their job is to walk you through these legalities and be a fiduciary to you. Also you can hide behind their errors and omission insurance. Going directly through a turnkey provider gives you little protection however assuming people are working in good faith there should be no problems. Big deals or small deals I don’t work with people I don’t know like or trust. But starting out we all make mistakes.
Unlike owner occupied properties “Letter To Sellers” for investment grade properties have little impact. Normally these letters humanize the process and helps connect you with the sellers but investors don’t care. In my opinion, you time is better spent researching more vendors or networking with other investors than to write a lame letter.
Set a Deadline – Give the seller a reasonable expiration date usually 3-5 days from the day you submit the offer. This gives them a little pressure.
Earnest Money is typically is suggested to be 1-10% of the property or $500-5,000. Putting down a larger amount of earnest money can make you seem more serious.
Another way to make you offer stronger is to waive contingencies in the contract. These include the mortgage contingency, a home sale contingency, an inspection contingency or an appraisal contingency. A lot of times the appraisal price may come up lower than the sale price you can agree before time should this happen how you will react to that.
Closing date – Most deals these days when using one of our Hui lenders are closing deals in 45-60 days. The seller wants the property sold the quicker but they also know that its a bit outside of your control. Again a broker can help advise you here. I was in one transaction where I was using 1031 exchange money and basically got extorted an extra $5,000 because I need to extend the closing period.
Can I negotiate with a Turnkey Seller? Answer is not really or you risk being seen as that unsophisticated investor who a pain in the butt. Here is the landscape, its been a bull market for over a decade, and there is a line of turnkey buyers around the block. That said you might be able to get $500 off the list price but its not worth it losing your social capital off the bat. My personal negotiation style is to offer full price but I make it clear that I am buying a property with certain expectations on the condition. As we move through the inspection that is where I try to be fair and knock down the price or get extra work done to the property.
I am not going to write that here because its too much to capture in a blog post but that is where it is critical to get someone experienced to look over your shoulder on an inspection report who will advise you on what is fair game to ask for. This is another reason to sign up for a year of group coaching or pay for an hour of consulting.
If you would like to get my form letter for my “letter of intent” (LOI) an offer letter for 2-300+ properties please apply for the Group Coaching Mastermind.
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Buying a brand new car can be incredibly annoying with all the haggling.
Here are some steps to follow when trying to get the best price:
1. Use the Internet to do your research on which car you want and exactly what level you want (color, features, and packages). Check out edmunds.com and many other car forums.
2. Go to the car dealership and test drive Don’t negotiate with them. Walk out and tell them you are not interested. Go to cars.com and search for the exact New Model of your car. You will know the cheapest price they are currently selling for. This is good information but the price will be dictated by the amount of demand and how you position yourself in negotiation.
3. I personally always lease because as investors you want to put the lease amount of cash down so you can put into your next turnkey rental or syndication deal.
4. Look up all the car dealerships around your zip code within a 500 miles radius to find the dealerships with the largest volume. You might need to build a list of 20 dealerships and
find out the person responsible for Internet or fleet sales along with their email addresses.
5. Come up with a concise email explaining exactly what you want to “BCC everyone.” If you can time it do it the end of the month or quarter when dealers are most desperate to sell.
Here is an example email:
Hi,
I am very interested in purchasing the car below: 2010 Mercedes C Class, Exterior – Black Sapphire Metallic, Navigation, and Sport Package.
I can be a little flexible with the exterior color.
I’m a SERIOUS BUYER and will be paying fully in CASH. My zip code is 12345 for pricing calculations.
I need you to provide me with an out the door (tax and title fee) quote by tomorrow the latest since I’m looking to get this car by the end of the week.
I will need your phone number to contact you. For your information, I’m request pricing from many of your competitors so be sure to provide me with the lowest quote possible. Be sure the out of the door price is approved by the Manager. I’m ready to buy and I do not wish to waste anyone’s time.
Thank you for your time,
Hustler
7. Once the offers start to pour in, take some time to think it over. Don’t make a fast commitment and wait for all the offers to come in. Pick some of the top offers and time to negotiate further. Give them a call and get them to lower the price some more. Some dealers will try to not get into a bidding war or require you to come into the facility.
Short answer: If you are an investor about to generate more than 12% a year ROI then you want more capital in your pocket to invest in more assets, therefore you should lease a car. If you are not an investor and especially if you can’t seem to accumulate any savings you should buy because it is a forced savings account. Same concept about buying or renting a home.
Long answer….
First off who wants to drive a crappy car?!?
Life is too short and for those of use who work hard and invest right find time more valuable than money… and time spent in a crappy car is wasted time on this earth.
Putting out the Safety Card – newer cars have rear view cameras, more airbags, and lane assistance technologies, mine even drives and parks its self… it could even prevent you from being injured or killed. I know some of you SPC Nation are cheapos and I myself was them as I rode my dangerous 50cc moped in the Seattle rain so I would not have to pay $4 per gallon in 2010.
Leasing a car, in many cases, is cheaper than buying a car on payments that extra cashflow along with a large downpayment can go to investing in cashflowing assets that grow your portfolio 20-30%.
Its simple math: Figure out what the opportunity cost would be if you used the money for a downpayment on a car instead of investing the downpayment into a downpayment on a turnkey rental or syndication.
Did I mention that you don’t have to worry about fixing anything on the car. And you can drive it like a rental!!! Cause it is.
Sure the rental property will have its issues come up but you really should not buy a property that cashflows in the first place.
Either way you are going to buy a car which is a depreciating asset. At least buy an asset that appreciated and better yet produces income too.
While it may be more financially prudent to buy an older more inexpensive car, leasing a newer car might end up costing you less in medical bills down the road.
It you want to fit in with everyone else who does not want debt and things this is the way to go as a means to justify an old car then so be it.
Look cars are not everything and it might not be your spurge but the numbers say you should rent UNLESS this is you:
You like to install a lift kit, upgrade the stereo, tint the windows, or do that strange inclined wheel thing that is the first sign of me getting old. In this case your car is “ratchet” and you are likely broke anyway.
And you can’t seem to regulate your spending.

April fools! You did not really think blowing a bunch of money on gambling in exchange for a free hotel and some food was aligned with the mission?!?
Here are some other Ultimate Guides if you would like to share with some friends:
For getting started with rentals: simplepassivecashflow.com/turnkey
Free Turnkey rental audio recordings: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QmipKpvAJZ1WfuMt0IRbxK1yZ8sx5Kvh
Turnkey Rental digital kit: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AVLQY36pKhBXgx40a33xa62LtgM17DBs
To scale to the next level: simplepassivecashflow.com/syndication
High level on investing: simplepassivecashflow.com/start
Don’t buy your primary residence and rent: SimplePassiveCashflow.com/home
Don’t use a SDIRA use a QRP: SimplePassiveCashflow.com/qrp
Are there any other questions or topics you need me to dive into?
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Lane’s comments as of 21.10.24:
Quantitate easing (QE) is scheduled to start tapering which means that the inflated stock market might be coming back down to real life Price/Earning rations.
Many of us who have been in our Hui community prior to 2020 knows that when the government says one thing that it takes awhile for it to actually happen. But that is just my educated speculation that tapering QE will be here in some for for several years to come.
That said what we have not seen yet is the eventual wave of inflation which happens when you pump trillions of dollars of fake money into the system.
People who use debt effectively will come out ahead as the tides rise. Where those who are unable to get into inflation hedging assets (boats – figuratively speaking) will have what little wealth they have eroded away.
Specifically… if you are paying down debt – more than the minimums….
Student loans, home loans, car loans.
You are doing exactly what the system/bank wants you to do.
We are not telling you to have your debts to go into arrears. Instead we are saying to pay off the minimums on your loans and focus other cashflow to buying more income producing assets such as real estate.
Do the math and the numbers will tell you what to do. Take your lazy equity and get it working. Use this simple spreadsheet to find that lazy equity.
From 2009-2013, as I was buying rentals on my own I definitely made my share of mistakes. One of these was to paying down my mortgage (debt). Here is one of those checks where I paid down my debt. Little did I know that sophisticated investors don’t do this.
FORBES – Is All Debt Bad Debt? – By Lane Kawaoka – 19.03.29

Debt is something that is generally regarded as a bad thing. On the surface, it makes sense. Personal finance teachers are very against debt. They offer advice like freezing your credit cards in a block of ice, paying down your mortgage as quickly as possible and never splurging on a $5 latte as ways to avoid or eliminate debt.
But debt is a tool, just like a hammer is a tool. A hammer can do a lot of damage, especially if you hit yourself over the head with one. The same principle applies to debt.
That’s why you’ll observe smart real estate investors, those people growing legacy wealth, excited about accumulating more debt to acquire properties. There is a difference between “good” debt and “bad” debt.
“Bad” debt is used to purchase things that do not produce more money. “Good” debt makes money by being invested in assets that produce income and capital gains.
I have been asked a lot about whether certain assets or liabilities are good debt or bad debt. There is no rule that a certain interest rate is the split between good debt or bad debt. Although most consumer debt (credit cards, personal loans, etc.) falls into the latter category, it’s not particularly because they generally come with interest rates over 20% — but because they create little to no income.
For example, a 4% student loan that allows Junior to get a college degree that doesn’t help advance his career would be one instance of bad debt. In contrast, good debt could be a 12% interest rate on a bridge loan to acquire an apartment building that produces 15-25% a year profit. As a bonus, when the funds required for the interest payments plus principal payments come from the investment itself (i.e., the tenant pays the mortgage for you) the loan is essentially free and creates cash flow.
There is a large misconception out there that all debt is bad and there is no difference between good debt and bad debt. The misinformed investor looks only at debt amount and interest rate. But the sophisticated investor looks at cash flow and the impact on net worth. Cash flow is the figurative oxygen that keeps you financially alive, and the impact on net worth is monitored by the percentage of return of equity.
Think of it this way: If you had to wait till you had all the money to purchase a rental property or home in hand, you might never acquire any asset that had the potential to create cash flow above the interest rate payments.
Semi-sophisticated investors may try to not leverage themselves to the max by taking a loan-to-value ratio of less than 80%, considering this to be “safer.” However, putting up a larger down payment may drain your cash reserves. The savviest investors know that security lies in the monthly cash flow, which builds up a large cash reserve account. On the flip side, taking out a smaller loan for a smaller asset will yield less cash flow.
Investing without debt is like cooking without gasoline: Of course, gasoline can be dangerous, but if we learn to use it properly, we can see better results. Investors who utilize debt can transcend the current money paradigm that most people live by. Numbers people see it as a simple argument of interest/return rate arbitrage where they pair a lower interest rate with a higher rate of return. It’s a game of arbitrage and it is at the core of the banking industry.
Is Your Debt Good Or Bad?
To evaluate your investments and create an action plan, write all your debts and assets out in a list.
Write down the description, balance amount, interest rate per year and what income it is producing as a percentage per year from the initial cost it took to acquire that asset. Identify which assets are producing the least amount of money after paying off the debt service (interest). Some of these may be negative. Consider selling or liquidating some of those in order to acquire assets that produce positive income.
Real estate is a time-tested asset that produces income and is a commodity where the demand is not going away. However, it’s advised to also consider other assets that produce income.
It will take some time but if you prudently leverage your holdings with more and more good debt, you will be able to reap the rewards of a guilt-free, bad-debt splurge such as your dream car, vacation home or private-school education for Junior, because it will be paid off by the cash flow from the other good debt investments. In those situations, you will find a new level of ownership of that purchase because you truly earned it.
Saying a loan to value (LTV) is too high on a deal is a blanket statement. Much like saying a steak takes 9 minutes on medium-high heat… BBQ aficionados will give you some formula based on weight, thickness, and then a core temperature. We are real estate aficionados! You can learn to be one here.
Most of our group these days are Accredited investors with a net worth over 1M and/or make over $250k a year. That said you might be well on your way with a net worth over 250k and/or make $100k a year. If you are any of the above join our club and invest alongside us in real assets. If you are to either of those levels yet you might want to clean up your finances and use this debt elimination system. Plus ask for our free Basic Financial eCourse.
Update 1/2/2019…
Thank you for your preliminary inquiry.
Please submit to me a signed and scanned, Letter of Intent with your Highest and Best Offer. And the name of your property inspector so we can coordinate a showing.
I don’t really have an asking price cause I’m too busy to figure it out. Go ahead an put in your offer assuming items are in stabilized order. If there are any glaring issues we can deduct it and get the deal done. The 5th ave, I just put in 15K of work this past month… it can be sold retail or you can turn it into a turnkey. You are basically buying it from a source (me) where I’m not trying to screw you on the deal and I try to manage issues that come up with the property as efficiently as possible.
And sorry I will not divulge how much leverage I have on this property because it is respectfully, none of your business. Also, I will not be doing seller financing (There were a couple of you who asked). Maybe you asked because it is a past joke of which you tell people “between the lines” to go screw off when someone has a ridiculous price and you inquire about seller financing. Sort of like when you don’t get selected for a job and they tell you they will “put your resume in the file.” Anyway it made me chuckle 😁
I am taking the equity that I built up and is now lazy – SimplePassiveCashflow.com/roe
After selling 7 out of 11 of my turnkeys in 2018 and blowing up my AGI… I am looking to sell the last four in 2019!
Two of my Turnkeys in Alabama are good pickups for you turnkey buyers.
I’m not desperate to sell (so don’t give me anything 10% off fair price)… that’s just annoying and wasting everyone’s time. I think I try to be transparent with everyone that these are solid properties with nothing hidden issues. The neat thing about buying from me is that you know that they are proven assets with a decreased change of buying a dud. Plus you can use my team in place so it would be very turnkey.
I’m hoping we can do a direct sale and save on the commission costs.
1) 509 20th Ave, Birmingham, Alabama – my most solid rental of all. Still with a renter in there since 2016. Rents are $875 a month.
2) 2109 5th NE, Birmingham, AL 35215 – tenant moved out a few months ago and we were rehabbing it with $20K of upgrades. Video
Here are the comps (sold properties within half mile of the subject property ).. https://galmls.paragonrels.com/publink/default.aspx?GUID=54d00a6d-9dc1-4c16-b02e-5f2543e09723&Report=Yes%20%20%20
The average price per square foot is 78.26 you home has 1,008+/- square footage so $78,886.08 for retail sale. But this is a freshly rehabbed. Our plan is to wait till spring February to sell to buyer.
I would encourage you to get your own inspector ($300) and we can split the lawyer fees to sell with title warranty and do the paperwork.
| Square Feet | Address | Year Built | 2017 Rent | 8/2017 Zestimate | 2016 Market | 2017 Zestimate |
2017 Rent Zestimate |
Zillow Link | 2017 RentOmeter AVERAGE |
2017 RentOmeter MEDIAN |
Rentometer Link | Roofstock list | |||
| 1,250 | 509 20th ave NE, Birmingham AL 35215 | 1961 | 875 | 63,000 | 78,100 | 71,640 | 900 | https://www.zillow.com/homes/509-20th-ave,-Birmingham-al_rb/ | 580 | 596 | https://www.rentometer.com/results/jkHxCQjT0Zg | 75,251 | |||
| 1,750 | 2109 5th NE, Birmingham, AL 35215 | 1971 | 921 | 65,355 | 71,003 | 850 | https://www.zillow.com/homes/2109-5th-NE,-Birmingham,-AL-35215_rb/ | 575 | 583 | https://www.rentometer.com/results/lZjeuNbvaIY | 94,071 | ||||
I spent a lot of time driving Birmingham. Let me know if you would be interested in joining me on a trip out there.
And if you are looking for the latest referrals to turnkey companies let know… if you are in the club.